Section 20

Cobb. But are you willing, said he, to stand to the judgment of the church ?
Bun. Yes, Sir, said I, to the approbation of the
church of God; (the church's iudg- I told him I did v , • o • N
look upon my- ment is best expressed in ocnpture).
w^accTdlg we had much other discourse which
to all righteous \ cannot well remember, about the laws
laws of the nation, and submission to
governments ; to which I did tell him, that I did look upon myself as bound in conscience to walk accord- ing to all righteous laws, and that, whether there was a king or no ; and if I did any thing that was contrary, I did hold it my duty to bear patiently the
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penalty of the law, that was provided against such offenders ; with many more words to the like effect. And said, moreover, that to cut off all occasions of suspicion from any, as touching the harmlessness of my doctrine in private, I would willingly take the pains to give any one the notes of all my sermons ; for I do sincerely desire to live quietly in my country, and to submit to the present authority.
Cobb. Well, neighbour Bunyan, said he, but indeed I would wish you seriously to consider of these things, between this and the quarter-sessions, and to submit yourself. You may do much good if you continue still in the land ; but alas, what benefit will it be to your friends, or what good can you do to them, if you should be sent away beyond the seas into Spain, or Constantinople ', or some other remote part of the world ? Pray be ruled.
Jailor. Indeed, Sir, I hope he will be ruled.
Bun. I shall desire, said I, in all godliness and honesty to behave myself in the Iknownoevil nation, whilst I am in it. And if I that I have done
' . , . i , in this matter. I
must be so dealt withal, as you say, speak as in the I hope God will help me to bear what presence of God they shall lay upon me. I know no evil that I have done in this matter, to be so used. I speak as in the presence of God.
Cobb. You know, saith he, that the Scripture saith, the powers that be, are ordained of God.
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Bun. I said. Yes, and that I was to submit to the King as supreme, and also to the governors, as to them who are sent by Him.
Cobb. Well then, said he, the King then com- mands you, that you should not have any private meetings ; because it is against his law, and he is ordained of God, therefore you should not have any.
Bun. I told him that Paul did own the powers
that were in his day, to be of God ;
Hw privies16 and 7et ne was often in Prison under
obe in*73 °f t^em **°r a^ t^lat' AlK* a^S°' t^LOUS^
Jesus Christ told Pilate, that He had
no power against him, but of God, yet He died under the same Pilate ; and yet, said I, I hope you will not say that either Paul, or Christ, were such as did deny magistracy, and so sinned against God in slighting the ordinance. Sir, said I, the law hath provided two ways of obeying : the one to do that which I, in my conscience, do believe that I am bound to do, actively; and where I cannot obey actively, there I am willing to lie down, and to suffer what they shall do unto me. At this he sat still, and said no more ; which when he had done, I did thank him for his civil and meek discoursing with me ; and so we parted.
O ! that we might meet in heaven !
Farewell. J. B.
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Here followeth a discourse between my Wife and the Judges, with others, touching my Deliverance at the Assizes following ; the which I took from her own Mouth.
AFTER that I had received this sentence of
banishing, or hanging, from them,
and after the former admonition, for a convicted
touching the determination of the
justices, if I did not recant; just
when the time drew nigh, in which King's corona- I should have abjured, or have done worse (as Mr Cobb told me), came the time in which the King was to be crowned.1 Now, at the coronation of kings, there is usually a releasement of divers prisoners, by virtue of his coronation ; in which privilege also I should have had my share ; but that they took me for a convicted person, and therefore, unless I sued out a pardon (as they called it), I could have no benefit thereby, notwithstanding, yet, forasmuch as the coronation proclamation did give liberty, from the day the King was crowned, to that day twelvemonth, to sue them out ; therefore, though they would not let me out of prison, as they let out thousands, yet they could not meddle with me, as touching the execution of their sentence; because of the liberty offered for the suing out of 1 April 23, 1661. 219
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pardons. Whereupon I continued in prison till the next assizes, which are called Midsummer assizes, being then kept in August, 1661.
Now, at that assizes, because I would not leave
any possible means unattempted My wife did . ' ... , . /» t T T i i
present for me that might be lawful, I did, by my
toAug£st?66i wife> present a petition to the judges a petition to the three tjmes that i might be heard, judges
and that they would impartially take my case into consideration.
The first time my wife went, she presented it to Judge Hale, who very mildly received
it: at her har4 telling ner that ne byudge would do her and me the best good
he could ; but he feared, he said, he could do none. The next day, again, lest they should, through the multitude of business, forget me, we did throw another petition into the coach
to Judge Twisdon ; who, when he angrily sSi 1°° had seen it, snapt her up, and angrily
told her that * was a convicted person,
and could not be released, unless I would promise to preach no more, etc.
Well, after this, she yet again presented another
to Judge Hale, as he sat on the bench,
who, as it seemed, was willing to spirited fellow gjve her audience. Only Justice
Chester being present, stept up and said, that I was convicted in the court, and that I was a hot-spirited
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She then coming into the chamber with a bashed face, and a trembling heart, began her errand to them in this manner
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fellow (or words to that purpose), whereat he waived it, and did not meddle therewith. But yet, my wife being encouraged by the high-sheriff, did venture once more into their presence (as the poor widow did before the unjust judge) to try what she could do with them for my liberty, before they went forth of the town. The place where she went to them, was to the Swan-chamber, where the two judges, and many justices and gentry of the country, was in company together. She then coming into the chamber with a bashed face, and a trembling heart, began her errand to them in this manner : —
Woman. My lord (directing herself to Judge Hale), I make bold to come once again to your Lordship, to know what may be done with my husband.
Judge Hale. To whom he said, Woman, I told thee before I could do thee no good ; because they have taken that for a conviction which thy husband spoke at the sessions : and unless there be something done to undo that, I can do thee no good.
Woman. My lord, said she, he is kept unlawfully in prison ; they clapped him up before there was any proclamation against the meetings; the indict- ment also is false. Besides, they never asked him whether he was guilty or no; neither did he confess the indictment.
One of the Justices. Then one of the justices that stood by, whom she knew not, said, My Lord, he was lawfully convicted.
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Worn. It is false, said she ; for when they said to him, Do you confess the indictment? he said only this, that he had been at several meetings, both where there were preaching the Word, and prayer, and that they had God's presence among them.
Judge Twisdon. Whereat Judge Twisdon answered very angrily, saying, What, you think we can do what we list ; your husband is a breaker of the peace, and is convicted by the law, etc. Whereupon Judge Hale called for the Statute Book.
Worn. But, said she, my lord, he was not lawfully convicted.
Chester. Then Justice Chester said, My lord, he was lawfully convicted.
Worn. It is false, said she ; it was but a word of dis- course that they took for a conviction (as you heard before).
Chest. But it is recorded, woman ; it is recorded, said Justice Chester-, as if it must be of necessity true, because it was recorded. With which words he often endeavoured to stop her mouth, having no other argument to convince her, but it is recorded, it is recorded.
Worn. My Lord, said she, I was a while since at London, to see if I could get my husband's liberty ; and there I spoke
Beat[kwoto°dLord with m7 lord Barkwood, one of the
House of Lords, to whom I delivered
a petition, who took it of me and presented it to
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some of the rest of the House of Lords, for my husband's releasement; who, when they had seen it, they said, that they could not release him, but had committed his releasement to the judges, at the next assizes. This he told me ; and now I am come to you to see if any thing may be done in this business, and you give neither releasement nor relief. To which they gave her no answer, but made as if they heard her not.
Chest. Only Justice Chester was often up with this, — He is convicted, and it is recorded.
Worn. If it be, it is false, said she.
Chest. My lord, said Justice Chester, he is a pestilent fellow, there is not such a fellow in the country again.
Twis. What, will your husband leave preaching ? If he will do so, then send for him.
Worn. My lord, said she, he dares not leave preach- ing as long as he can speak.
Twis. See here, what should we talk any more about such a fellow ? Must he do what he lists ? He is a breaker of the peace.
Worn. She told him again, that he desired to live peaceably, and to follow his calling, that his family might be maintained ; and moreover, said, My Lord, I have four small children, that cannot help them- selves, one of which is blind, and have nothing to live upon, but the charity of good people.
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Hale; thou art but a young woman to have four children.
Worn. My lord, said she, I am but mother-in-law
to them, having not been married to Mrs Bunyan '
speaks to Judge him yet full two years. Indeed, I was
with child when my husband was first apprehended ; but being young, and unaccustomed to such things, said she, I being smayed 1 at the news, fell into labour, and so continued for eight days, and then was delivered, but my child died.
Hale. Whereat, he looking very soberly on the matter, said, Alas, poor woman !
Twis. But Judge Twisdon told her, that she made poverty her cloak ; and said, moreover, that he understood I was maintained better by running up and down a preaching, than by following my calling.
Hale. What is his calling ? said Judge Hale.
Answer. Then some of the company that stood by, said, A tinker, my lord.
Worn. Yes, said she ; and because he is a tinker, and a poor man, therefore he is despised, and cannot have justice.
Hale. Then Judge Hale answered very mildly, saying, I tell thee, woman, seeing it is so, that they have taken what thy husband spake for a conviction ; thou must either apply thyself to the King, or sue out his pardon, or get a writ of error.
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her this counsel; and especially (as she supposed) because he spoke of a writ of error, he chafed, and seemed to be very much offended; saying, My lord, he will preach and do what he lists.
Worn. He preacheth nothing but the Word of God, said she.
Twis. He preach the Word of God! said Twisdon; and withal, she thought he would have struck her; he runneth up and down, and doth harm.
Worn. No, my lord, said she, it is not so; God hath owned him, and done much good by him.
Twis. God ! said he, his doctrine is the doctrine of the devil.
Worn. My lord, said she, when the righteous Judge shall appear, it will be known that his doctrine is not the doctrine of the devil.
Twis. My lord, said he, to Judge Hale, do not mind her, but send her away.
Hale. Then said Judge Hale, I am sorry, woman, that I can do thee no good ; thou must do one of those three things aforesaid, namely, either to apply thyself to the King, or sue out his pardon, or get a writ of error ; but a writ of error will be cheapest.
Worn. At which Chester again seemed to be in a chafe, and put off his hat, and as judge Chester she thought, scratched his head for very angry anger : but when I saw, said she, that there was no prevailing to have my husband sent for, though I
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often desired them that they would send for him, that he might speak for himself; telling them, that he could give them better satisfaction than I could, in what they demanded of him, with several other things, which now I forget ; only this I re- member, that though I was somewhat timorous at my first entrance into the chamber, yet before I went out, I could not but break forth into tears, not so much because they were so hard-hearted against me, and my husband, but to think what a sad account such poor creatures will have to give at the coming of the Lord, when they shall there answer for all things whatsoever they have done in the body, whether it be good, or whether it be bad.
So, when I departed from them, the book of statutes was brought, but what they said of it I know nothing at all, neither did I hear any more from them.
Some Carriages of the Adversaries of God's Truth with me at the next Assizes, which was on the of the Jirst month, 1662.
1 SHALL pass by what befell between these two How I had assizes, how I had, by my jailor,
more liberty some liberty granted me, more than at the first, and how I followed my wonted course of preaching, taking all occasions that were put into my hand to visit the people of God ; exhorting them to be
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steadfast in the faith of Jesus Christ, and to take heed that they touched not the Common Prayer, etc., but to mind the Word of God, which giveth direction to Christians in every point, being able to make the man of God perfect in all things through faith in Jesus Christ, and thoroughly to furnish him unto all good works. 2 Tim. iii. 1 7. Also how I having, I say, somewhat more liberty, did go to see the Christians at London ; which my enemies hearing of, were so angry, that they had almost cast my jailor out of his place, threatening to indict him, and to do what they could against him. They charged me also, that I went thither to plot and raise division, and make insurrec- tion, which, God knows, was a slander ; whereupon my liberty was more straitened than it was before ; so that I must not now look out of the door. Well, when the next sessions came, which was about the loth of the nth month (1661), I did ex- pect to have been very roundly dealt withal ; but they passed me by, and ™£JdIy dealt would not call me, so that I rested till the assizes, which was held the i9th of the first month (1662) following; and when they came, because I had a desire to come before the judge, I
desired my jailor to put my name into
J J r r i j l wished my
the calendar among me felons, and name to be put made friends of the judge and high- sheriff, who promised that I should be called : so that I thought what I had done might have been
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effectual for the obtaining of my desire : but all was in vain; for when the assizes came, though my name was in the calendar, and also though both the judge and sheriff had promised that I should appear before them, yet the justices and the clerk of the peace, did so work it about, that I, notwithstanding, was deferred, and was not suffered to appear: and although I say, I do not know of all their carriages towards me, yet this I know, that the clerk of the One of my peace (Mr Cobb) did discover him-